[obol] cascade head, lizard help

[Dennis P. Vroman]

Have seen Northern Alligator Lizards in the mountains around Grants Pass and 
I seem to recall them having more of a dark "stripe" along their sides.  The 
sides of the one in Phil's photos has more of the pattern of a Southern than 
our "southern" Northerns, if you can follow this.   Dennis


> It appears to be a Northern Alligator Lizard.  The subspecies up here is 
> quite a bit different than the one down in the Rogue Valley, among other 
> thigs has a narrower head.  Northern Alligator Lizards are widespread in 
> the Coast Range.  Southern Alligator Lizards are common in the Willamette 
> Valley, but I think unknown along the north coast.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>> It's an Alligator Lizard, but it's a bit tougher to determine if Northern 
>> or Southern.  Think it's a Northern.  They have brownish eyes as compared 
>> to Southern which have yellowish eyes.  The eyes of Phil's Lizard are in 
>> the shadows, but look brownish.  Also, Northern is more apt to be found 
>> along the coast where your at.
>>
>> How about some other OBOL reptile experts thoughts.   Dennis
>>
>>
>>> 8/31:
>>>
>>> this was ~7", found 900' up the open grassy slope.
>>> i don't own a guide - alligator lizard of some ssp? thx
>>> http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/chl1.jpg
>>>
>>> Phil
>>> philliplc at harborside.com