[obol] Movies and Lane Birds

Alan Contreras acontrer at MINDSPRING.COM
Sun Jul 23 20:57:52 PDT 2006


I don't understand why this movie string is on OBOL at all.

In Oregon bird news, if I may be so bold as to change the subject, I went to
the coast today with Rich Hoyer, Daniel Farrar and Lydia Cruz.  It was foggy
in some areas, windy in all areas, and a delicious 64 degrees.

The most interesting birds to me were the five Glaucous-winged Gulls hanging
around Florence.  Two were at the north fork pullout along 126 and three
were at the north jetty mudflats.  All but one were adults; the other
appeared to be a second-summer bird in desperate need of a molt. I can't
recall seeing ANY G-wings around Florence in July, let alone 5.  There were
also a couple of hybrids, which are abundant in winter but I don't usually
see them in summer.  Also the usual wads of Californias in all plumages,
some Heermann's, a Ring-bill at the north fork (not common in summer),
Westerns and a couple of Caspian Terns.  Also a rhino between the jetties.

Rhinos were common and easy to see just north of Sea Lion Caves.  We saw no
other identifiable small alcids, though had some flyby blobs.  2 adult bald
Eagles were over Yaquina Head mid-day but the gulls seemed to push them away
and the murres were on the rocks.  Nice to be there with no smell and no
flies - here's to 20-mile north winds.

And in book news, Birds of Lane County has gone to the printer and is due in
early September.

-- 
Alan Contreras
EUGENE, OREGON
acontrer at mindspring.com


> From: Mike Patterson <celata at pacifier.com>
> Reply-To: <celata at pacifier.com>
> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:28:57 -0700
> To: Peter Stoel <stoel at spiritone.com>
> Cc: <obol at lists.oregonstate.edu>
> Subject: Re: [obol] Re: An Incovenient Truth
> 
> Here's a review of the study critical of the "hockey stick" graph.
> http://news.mongabay.com/2006/0716-climate.html
> 
> It should be noted that the folks claiming that the data is statistically
> suspect were an economist and an oil industry consultant commissioned by
> Texas Representative Joe Barton "that have already been refuted by several
> papers in the peer-reviewed literature inexplicably neglected by Barton's
> 'panel'."
> 
> And to anticipate the next volley from the drive-by pundits....
> 
> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686
> http://globalchange.gov/
> http://an-inconvenient-truth.com/links.html
> 
> If memory serves the next talking point volley should be something about
> "reliance on peer-reviewed material and the exclusion of material that can't
> get a fair peer-review because it disagrees with the conventional wisdom"...
> followed by "most scientists are afraid to go against the conventional
> wisdom for fear of losing their grant funding."
> 
> Is it hot in here? or is it just me?
> 
> Peter Stoel wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Doug,
>>   I have to respond to your following statement:
>> "...the "Hockey Stick" pattern of temperature trends upon which "global
>> warning" is based is scientifically and statistically suspect."
>> 
>> I saw the movie so I'm wondering about your use of the words
>> "scientifically suspect."    Doug, can you cite the published,
>> peer-reviewed evidence and analysis that you allege makes the hockey stick
>> trend suspect?  That would be helpful to all of us in evaluating your
>> statement regarding this much talked-about subject and movie.
>> 
>> I bring this up because I don't want the word "scientific" unduly
>> cheapened, especially in crucial public policy matters like this one.
>> Published and peer-reviewed, that is what science means to scientists.
>> 
>>   In the future please do some literature research and cite the evidence
>> for your statements on this matter.  That way your letters will be helpful
>> to Obolians and will not just incite emotions and generate  more hearsay
>> and opinions.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Peter Stoel
>> Portland
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike Patterson   
> Astoria, OR      
> celata at pacifier.com
>  
> Why birders hate Cordilleran Flycatchers
> http://www.surfbirds.com/blogs/mbalame/archives/003981.html
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