[obol] John Rakestraw's gull

[DJ Lauten and KACastelein]

Seriously folks there is a 3rd year SLATY-BACKED BULL just across the 
border into Cal from Brookings.  It is at the Alexandria Dairy farm on 
the Smith River in Del Norte Cty, found by Alan Barron a couple of days 
ago.  You can find pictures of it at 
http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/gallery.htm 
<http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/%7Ejmorlan/gallery.htm>.  Take a look and 
you'll see the difference. 

Cheers
Dave Lauten

Paul T. Sullivan wrote:

>OK,
>
>I know that we will be hearing from some more gull-experts.  There will be 
>long text messages discussing (very ably) the Identification points of this 
>single bird.  We'll have to wait a week for this to play out, with everyone 
>having a say.
>
>Let me suggest a different path:
>1. I usually do not open both OBOL and photo webpages at the same time.  If 
>I see a link on OBOL and click on it, I'm taken to the photo on the webpage 
>and my OBOL screen goes away.  Yes, I know how to get them both open at the 
>same time, but a) it takes a long time at home, and b) I shouldn't be doing 
>it at work where the computers are faster.
>
>2. Long text discussions with people offering conflicting points of view are 
>confusing to my non-gull-enthusiast mind, especially when I don't have the 
>photo in front of me, don't know what Vega means, don't know what to expect 
>from a 3rd-year hybrid _____________ X ____________ gull in worn winter 
>plumage, etc, etc.  These discussions don't really teach me much.
>
>3. So why doesn't someone put up photos of a real Slaty-backed Gull in a 
>couple relevant poses -- with arrows pointing to the relevant points of 
>identification -- and put up comparison photos of whatever-you-think this 
>bird is (Western? Hybrid  ______________ X ______________?) -- again with 
>arrows pointing to the relevant points of identification.  Please label the 
>photos.  Please be sure that the photo shows the points that are discussed 
>in the accompanying text.  Maybe this could be published in Oregon Birds, so 
>we don't have to carry our desktops into the field with us.
>
>I agree that this is an opportunity for education, like Greg suggests.  I 
>agree that Greg, Dave Bailey, and others are very knowledgeable on the 
>subject.  This message is just a suggestion on how you can communicate that 
>knowledge to me and others more effectively.
>
>Thanks to you all.
>
>Paul T. Sullivan 
>
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