[obol] [OBOL] grey headed junco

[DAVID IRONS]

"Unless curmudgeons like Contreras, Crabtree and Irons are still around in 
200 years, the discussion won't be nearly as entertaining... can you guys last 
that long?"

I'm sure more than one person quickly flashed across the notion of 200 more years of my occasional opinionated posts and groaned.  I will do everything in my power to leave it to the Hinkle brothers and their children and grandchildren to sort out the junco mess.  Good luck boys.

Dave Irons

From: FoxSparrows at aol.com
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:42:41 -0500
To: obol at lists.oregonstate.edu
Subject: Re: [obol] [OBOL] grey headed junco









Unless curmudgeons like Contreras, Crabtree and Irons are still around in 
200 years, the discussion won't be nearly as entertaining... can you guys last 
that long?
 
Foxsparrows
 
In a message dated 2/28/2008 5:38:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
tc at empnet.com writes:

  Understand that the 
  Junco complex is just that—complex.  It has caused considerable debate 
  among the experts for years.  They make the Galapagos Finches seem stable 
  and clear cut.  In some birds their parentage cannot be adequately 
  determined.  Some experts say there is one species of Junco (there is no 
  rationale for separating Yellow-eyed and “Red-backed” Dark-eyed Juncos) while 
  others say there are six or even seven species.  We are at one point 
  along the evolutionary parade and stating what is a “species” or a 
  “subspecies” or a “form” is a lot more difficult for some birds than it is for 
  others.  Wait 200 years and things should clarify. . . 
  .

 


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