[obol] AOL Spam Reports

[Jim Norton]

Thanks Dave.

I do have to say that I made a few mistakes when I did the migration  
of the list from the OSU server to my server which caused a lot of  
problems for people.

I did my best to get people squared away by sending instructions  
and/or making the needed changes to subscriptions myself if some  
people couldn't do it on their own.

Recently we've had about 45 or so people unsubscribe from the list. I  
hope this isn't because of something I'm either doing or not doing....

Quoting DJ Lauten and KACastelein <deweysage at verizon.net>:

> Jim,
>
> Thanks a ton for dealing with all these OBOL issues, there aren't enough
> words of graditude for folks like you who take on these unthankful jobs.
>
> With that said, I have watched bemusedly over the past month or so the
> effects of the change of OBOL.
>
> To the folks that helped to instigate the change from one listserver to
> another:  thank yourself, seems like things were working just fine, and
> since, it seems like things have been hectic at times, absurd at times,
> and frustrating at times.
>
> To the folks who simply refuse to read the instructions: there are
> reasons for instructions, one is for you to understand how things work,
> two is to avoid annoying those of of us who know how things work and
> don't care to continually get your messages of help.  Learn to read,
> then read the instructions, they really really help.
>
> To the folks who sign up for OBOL and then make a claim that it is
> spam:  please pull your head out of the sand.  Then read the
> instructions or at a minimum get an understanding of how listservers
> work.  You cannot possibly be receiving OBOL emails without actually
> signing up first.  YOU signed up.  You have the responsibility to sign
> off if you don't like it.  If you don't read the instructions, and get
> an understanding of some basic computer technology, then maybe you
> should reconsider the investment made in the computer and stop using
> it.  But, if you have an understanding of how to report to AOL what is
> spam, then you are more than intelligent enough to understand the
> instructions of OBOL and get yourself removed from the list.  It is NOT
> AOL's problem, so stop reporting it them, and it is NOT OBOL's problem,
> so stop reporting it to OBOL or Jim.
>
> My apologies for the rant, but I have had it with the lack of some
> REALLY simple understanding and refusal to READ the INSTRUCTIONS!!!!!!!
>
> My guess now is that my email won't make a darn bit of difference.  But
> it sure did make me feel better.
>
> Cheers
> Dave Lauten
>
>
> Jim Norton wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I've received about 30 separate reports from AOL indicating that some
>> person(s) are reporting OBOL posts as spam.
>>
>> This is *not* good! If enough of these reports are filed with AOL, AOL
>> will again block all mail from the OBOL list mail server meaning that
>> no AOL members will receive OBOL posts.
>>
>> I spent a lot of time in the beginning getting my email server removed
>> from AOL blacklist. I won't be doing it again. So I suggest that AOL
>> members do not report OBOL posts as spam.
>>
>> Instead, if you don't wish to receive OBOL posts in you AOL inbox then
>> either use the system tools provided to make the needed changes
>> yourself or send me an email requesting a change be made.
>>
>> I repeat... I will not again jump through 2,000 AOL hoops to get my
>> mail server removed from AOL's blacklist. So if you AOL members wish
>> to continue receiving OBOL posts I recommend you read the above
>> carefully.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Jim Norton
>>
>> "The starting point of all achievement is desire. Keep this
>> constantly in mind. Weak desires bring weak results, just as
>> a small amount of fire makes a small amount of heat." - Napoleon Hill
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Jim Norton

"The starting point of all achievement is desire. Keep this
constantly in mind. Weak desires bring weak results, just as
a small amount of fire makes a small amount of heat." - Napoleon Hill
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