[obol] cardinals as caged birds & misc.

Harry Krueger hkrueger at cableone.net
Mon Mar 17 17:28:25 PDT 2008


When in high school in Southern California I once kept a Black-headed
Grosbeak for a month...in a cage...and then buried him in my
backyard.... in Imperial Beach, just north of the border....  I miss
"Dinky." :(
Since then my mother has always been very adament that she didn't know
anything about our ancestry...

Heraldo Sanchez-Kruegerson

P.S. I propose building some kind of barrier on the Wyoming-Idaho border to
keep all the illigal eastern birds out of the NW.

[Is March over soon?]



On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Mike Patterson <celata at pacifier.com> wrote:

> My one and only experience with cardinals in Oregon was a pair which
> we know were caged birds, deliberately released in Cottage Grove.
> I never saw them personally, but we kept hearing about them into the
> mid-1970's.  The perps were NOT hispanic (they were Norwegian if
> memory serves).
>
> My grandmother kept a Black-headed Grosbeak named "Mr. Bill" that the
> cat brought in in a cage for several years in the 1940's.  She was
> Scotch-Irish.
>
> The neighbor boy used to catch Evening Grosbeaks in noose traps at
> his mother's bird feeder and keep them for short periods of time until
> I explained the MBTA (see previous post) to his mother.  They had a
> Finnish last name.
>
> People keep stuff in cages even when it's against the law to do so.
> I have every confidence that if I were to start knocking on doors in
> Astoria, I'd find a few illegally kept birds (this place is crawling
> with Norwegians and Finns).
>
> I freely admit that I have opinions, tons of 'em and my opinion is that
> data suggesting that cardinals rarely move more than a couple miles from
> where they were banded trumps the not supported by any data "maybe it
> got here on its own" speculations.
>
> It is my opinion that this record should be submitted to the records
> committee.
>
> And it is also my opinion that when they put it in the "origin
> questionable"
> pile where, in my opinion, it belongs, anybody who disagrees with the
> verdict can include it on their personal life list.
>
> Because, in my opinion, a person's life-list ain't nobody's business
> but his or her own.
>
> We would do well to sort the life-list part of this question from the
> records keeping for posterity part.
>
> --
> Mike Patterson
> Astoria, OR
> celata at pacifier.com
>
> When bad photos happen to good birds
> http://www.surfbirds.com/blogs/mbalame/archives/2008/03/photo20080313.html
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